[doctor killer]

Hey all!
I have a stupid projects at school in my "report redaction course" and I'm stuck with the following subject: "A company want to upgrade it's computers (recently bought: don't worry about system requirements, presently running windows xp pro...) to Windows 7 (x64) but would like the advice of an expert before... and you are asked to make a recommendation report about that".

So i've been brainstorming a lot since two weeks and I would like you guys to bring up some points FOR Windows 7 (x64)...(and against but NO SPAMMERS PLZ) if you know some websites that presents concrete and accurate benchmarks and stuff like that

I already have lots of info but I have to fill about 12 pages of text (1.5 interline) and I'm starting to run out of fuel...faster than I taught at the beginning! lol

[utengineer]

Most companies are required by their asset management to have factory warranty/support on their assets. Microsoft will no longer support XP this year. Therefore, the company would have to outsource this to Microsoft certified engineers. Can they afford this.....did they budget for it originally.

Running Win7 also allows them to conform to modern patch management software as well. Their admins might be spending twice the time trying to patch older XP systems versus Win7. It depends on their current infrastructure though.

You can also go to the MS website and get a dozen key selling points on why to upgrade.

[grandslam]

dunno if this is any help for you
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=n...%3Den%26tl%3Dnl

[Jyrba]

well, this doesn't help you but if we are comparing win7 and xp, I would update to 7, only 1 HUGE problem with that. I'm fps gamer and in win 7 I can't take mouse acc completely off

[doctor killer]

@ utengineer : This subject is also part of my project (at least in my plan) but you're giving me an other perspective on the thing ... Thank you for that!
@ grandslam: Again: your avatar is soooo nice! And even if the link you sent me is translated, I saw that it contains benchmarks on the same config of 32 bits AND 64 bits now, this is nice: I was looking for those! Thank you very much!
@ Jyrba: we talked about this in an other topic: I told you to try with an acceleration a bit at the time: at some point, if you play a lot, you will get used to the acceleration like pretty much all other players do... PLUS: the main post specifies that it is for a company, not for gamers...

Again, thank you very much for all of these, helping a lot!

Once I'll be done, I might publish the document on the forum (Google translated because it's in French...)

[doctor killer]

LOL I just saw a typo in the topic name..... "wHindows 7"
sorry for that...

[wumpus]

i read a review somewhere that said thazt win 7 gave longer battery life to laptops. maybe could be useful for a business....sort of.

[Boomer]

utengineer, on Feb 3 2010, 08:58 PM, said:

Most companies are required by their asset management to have factory warranty/support on their assets. Microsoft will no longer support XP this year. Therefore, the company would have to outsource this to Microsoft certified engineers. Can they afford this.....did they budget for it originally.

Running Win7 also allows them to conform to modern patch management software as well. Their admins might be spending twice the time trying to patch older XP systems versus Win7. It depends on their current infrastructure though.

You can also go to the MS website and get a dozen key selling points on why to upgrade.

Your wrong there m8, Microsoft will support windows xp till 2013. They have extended their support period because many people still own xp and don't want to switch over.

[mihapiha]

If it has the MS logo you can be pretty sure it won't work anyways. Either the printer, network, scanner or something else...

[doctor killer]

I heard they were dropping Windows XP this year...If you have found an article saying the opposite, it would be nice to post it here...

Again, thank you for the help guys!

[isaac]

I have to say that when I switched from XP (used it for 6 years) to W7 (never used it before) I was amazed.

The entire interface is designed beautifully, it's not like Mac OSX or Vista where they just added loads of unwanted flashy buttons, it's actually designed very well. I also noticed a huge jump up in performance with games, multimedia and programming languages. My Python applications worked better, my games ran 100x better on W7, and video editing is delicious.

Here are some points you could add:

*Windows 7 is more secure than XP
*Windows 7 has better support for multi-core technology (this is definetely the case : > )
*Windows 7 is the new and better OS, it will be supported by every company - eventually XP will just become obsolete

Regards

[Boomer]

doctor killer, on Feb 5 2010, 01:14 AM, said:

I heard they were dropping Windows XP this year...If you have found an article saying the opposite, it would be nice to post it here...

Again, thank you for the help guys!

Alright, even found out i was wrong. XP will be supported till 2014!

Source(s):
http://www.informationweek.com/news/window...cleID=208800494
http://www.gadgetell.com/tech/comment/micr...port-till-2014/
http://www.pbcomp.co...windows-xp.html

I think that are enough sources?

[Challenger]

not sure if you already have this but the "Problem steps recorder" Is an amazing feature for biz so that the end user can record the steps they are trying to do when they have an issue and can simply email the html file it generates to the IT dept and it saves the time of the IT people as most of the issues will be user error and can be sorted with a phone.

The xp emulation is also good but not sure if it fits your argument.

[doctor killer]

Boomer, on Feb 8 2010, 12:42 PM, said:

Alright, even found out i was wrong. XP will be supported till 2014!

Source(s):
http://www.informationweek.com/news/window...cleID=208800494
http://www.gadgetell.com/tech/comment/micr...port-till-2014/
http://www.pbcomp.co...windows-xp.html

I think that are enough sources?

yeah well that's was in june 2008, Microsoft has announced an other deadline recently...
...
ah ok...they call it "Extended Support Retired" date: official microsoft link
More recent link
This last link say that they'll drop support in 2014 or 2 years after SP4 (the first one to come)

...you were right thank you

This post has been edited by doctor killer: 08 February 2010 - 06:58 PM

[kalzet]

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The xp emulation is also good but not sure if it fits your argument.

Alot of companies wont upgrade because they have invested in a program that was designed and made custom for them at a great expense, and it perhaps is not 100% compatable with Vista/7 and therefore they would need to pay extra to have the program rewritten/patched to worked on the new OS

However with the Pro/Ultimate you do get the XPMode to allow for these older programs to work and still have the shiney new operating system

[dirtylarryuk]

kalzet, on Feb 13 2010, 02:31 AM, said:

Alot of companies wont upgrade because they have invested in a program that was designed and made custom for them at a great expense, and it perhaps is not 100% compatable with Vista/7 and therefore they would need to pay extra to have the program rewritten/patched to worked on the new OS

However with the Pro/Ultimate you do get the XPMode to allow for these older programs to work and still have the shiney new operating system

XP is 9 years old (the retail vesion arrived in 2001!), so has a huge libary of software that will work with it , if a biz uses high end software for CAD_VIDEO_3D_Softare Coding_Database etc XP 64 would be needed and has a terrible issue of non compat' with most hardware now vs Vista 64-win7 64.

So in a very simple way XP is kinda locked in 32 bit and that could be a disater for some users for pro applications over next few years.

[greatwillies]

I think you should go with the Windows XP, because XP have long history and still half of the total public use that. Actually among all the operating system XP has ability to perform task in any of the situation. So you can get more things about the XP for your project.

[dirtylarryuk]

greatwillies, on 14 June 2010 - 09:43 AM, said:

I think you should go with the Windows XP, because XP have long history and still half of the total public use that. Actually among all the operating system XP has ability to perform task in any of the situation. So you can get more things about the XP for your project.

erm not true quite a few high end medai apps won't run on XP 64 at all anymore. if fact more stuff runs on Linnux or Unnix 64 than Xp 64. This includes databases to 3d and video packages.

Soon as you want to play with lots of data you need 64 bit and XP 64 is a bag of shite. In fact most hardare doesn't have driver updates for XP 64 anymore.

Vista and Win7 64 also work alot faster than XP 32 due to pref-fetch. networking is also easier on win7 (even at the corp end).

Xp was great but it is a decade old. And showing it's age. Some kit won't even run WIN7 you do need 1GB of ram just to install it. but almost any PC under 3 years old will actually work better with WIN7 vs xp. Stuff 4-5 yars old is where the issue lies of keep XP or upgrade the OS. Single core PC's and stuff with less than 128 VRAM or 1GB RAM or stoarge below 30GB is a problem for win7 32 or 64.

I'm sitting right next to a XP 32 laptop and it suits that laptop due to it's age. Vista and win7 can't even install on it. But I would not dream of having XP on new kit.

if you have a PC under 2 years old with more than 2GHZ dual core and 1 GB of ram you mad not to have win7 on it.

I actually saw on another forum someone having a rant that his new 480 won't do DX11 or Nvidia 3d in XP (yes some people are that stupid!).

[Boomer]

I rather run Linux on my laptop(s).

[Challenger]

Boomer, on 04 September 2010 - 02:06 PM, said:

I rather run Linux on my laptop(s).

Nice bringing back a post from the past!

Also please could you change your sig and avatar as animations are not allowed on the forum due to annoyance and bandwidth.