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#1 Nhoy

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 12:58 PM

So guys; I recently bought a Samsung SA950 Monitor, tried it on my old rig.

Nice aesthetic design by the way. I'm really happy with it, even lucky got it with no dead/stuck pixel.

I'm experiencing motion sickness on FPS games especially at MW3. I couldnt last 5 mins with this refresh rate. Its like adding a little depth of field which makes me dizzy.

Geez, believe me; a 5 mins of gameplay would cause hours of dizzyness, headache, cold sweat and vomiting.

I'm thinking I should continue with this refresh rate til my eyes adjust and get used to it. But its been 3 days now, still the same.

Has anyone experienced this before?

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 01:23 PM

when I first switched to a 120hz refresh rate I had a few issues with feeling a tad sick at times if say I spun around real fast. I would continue to see if you can adjust to it, but its possible you have an issue with you eyes that you were not aware of previously. You could just use the standard 60hz for standard gaming and the 120hz for 3D. In a 3D situation you shouldnt have an issue because even though the monitors 120hz is effective to 60 hz for each eye in 3D.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 01:34 PM

Dang, is this why i feel sick after being online a while?Ugh!

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 01:37 PM

If you are experiencing these symptoms at any time during gameplay you should stop immediately. Your body is not going to calibrate, or adapt to the change in visual stimulation under your condition. You should play only in small sittings at first, and make sure rest your eyes after, preferably in a darker room. There is also a chance you may have a medical condition you are unaware of.

Other things to consider below:

How far are you from the display? Distance plays a role in depth perception and can cause adverse effects in correlation with that of motion sickness symptoms such as nausea.

Do you play when you are tired? Fatigue can often cause the ocular sensory and brain to discern information differently, and the strain of working harder can cause illness until the body is rested. This is very important, as it can also cause seizures or strokes to occur after prolonged stimulation.

Do you have issues with blood glucose? Blood sugar issues or seemingly low levels such as diabetes can change the body’s physical reaction to visual stimulation. This can simulate effects of illness or the sudden onset of headaches and chills.

How much caffeine do you ingest? Caffeine can be a deceivingly potent stimulant. For example; ingesting coffee on an empty stomach and subjecting oneself to visual stimulation can cause immediate nausea by the occurrence of motor function alteration, and increased stimulation of the sensory system.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 02:16 PM

View PostRighthooks, on 31 January 2012 - 01:37 PM, said:

If you are experiencing these symptoms at any time during gameplay you should stop immediately. Your body is not going to calibrate, or adapt to the change in visual stimulation under your condition. You should play only in small sittings at first, and make sure rest your eyes after, preferably in a darker room. There is also a chance you may have a medical condition you are unaware of.

Other things to consider below:

How far are you from the display? Distance plays a role in depth perception and can cause adverse effects in correlation with that of motion sickness symptoms such as nausea.

Do you play when you are tired? Fatigue can often cause the ocular sensory and brain to discern information differently, and the strain of working harder can cause illness until the body is rested. This is very important, as it can also cause seizures or strokes to occur after prolonged stimulation.

Do you have issues with blood glucose? Blood sugar issues or seemingly low levels such as diabetes can change the body’s physical reaction to visual stimulation. This can simulate effects of illness or the sudden onset of headaches and chills.

How much caffeine do you ingest? Caffeine can be a deceivingly potent stimulant. For example; ingesting coffee on an empty stomach and subjecting oneself to visual stimulation can cause immediate nausea by the occurrence of motor function alteration, and increased stimulation of the sensory system.

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Hooks..Sstoop....your scarring me! :unsure:

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 02:36 PM

It seems I'm not the only one.

@Righthooks

My bloodsugar is at normal level from my last CBC which is just a couple of months ago. But I have this habit of drinking a cup of latte when I get home from work then sitting on my computer, its only a cup a day.

Already played with the monitors settings, adjusting its brightness, contrast and sharpness to no avail. Turning off the lights seems to make it worst.

I'm reverting back to 60hz on FPS Games. Its cool to have it on windows aero though. Soooo smooth like silk. ü

I'm going to have my eyes check very soon just to be sure. Never wore any glasses on my life. And I thought I have a perfect 20/20 vision.

My distance from the screen is about 20-30 inches depends on where I'm comfortable at. Closer when I'm sniping. ;)

I guess 120hz isnt really for me. Thanks for the responses guys.

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 10:31 PM

View PostLucy, on 31 January 2012 - 02:16 PM, said:

Hooks..Sstoop....your scarring me! :unsure:
(Hooks has medical knowledge) ;)
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Posted 31 January 2012 - 10:33 PM

Perhaps there is a correlation with age? Do movies videos have the same effect?
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Posted 01 February 2012 - 02:58 AM

View PostxXDeltaXx, on 31 January 2012 - 10:31 PM, said:

(Hooks has medical knowledge) :wink:
i know! thats why it scares me! lol

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 12:43 PM

Nvidia make you sit a test for 100-120HZ 3D stereo vision if you fail it, it turns off and ask you to go to the doctor.

But If over 60HZ on CRT LCD LED makes you feel odd you may need to visit the Doctor or Optician.

At your own risk you can try 75-120hz to see if that stops any issues as some people will react to the way artificial light works in their room VS a display or other light forms such as LEDs in keybaords clocks etc etc.

There is a small risk of all the stuff in the front of Games manuals so if you think your in even 1% chance of having a fit visit a medical professional for more advice.

The main one is Have lots of NATURAL light in the room (an I don't mean daylight bulbs either I mean the actual SUN), and take breaks every 60-120 Mins when gaming.

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Posted 02 February 2012 - 11:27 PM

Nvidia do hide this:

READ THE FOLLOWING WARNINGS BEFORE YOU OR YOUR CHILD USE THE NVIDIA 3D VISION
BEFORE using NVIDIA® 3D Vision™ you should take the "User Vision Test," which will initiate when you turn on your 3D Vision for the first time. If you cannot see the image in 3D during the User Vision Test, DISCONTINUE USE IMMEDIATELY. Continued use may result in health-related complications.

Some individuals may experience a seizure or other complications when exposed to certain visual images, including flashing lights or patterns that may appear in video games. If you or any of your relatives have a history of seizures or epilepsy, consult a doctor before using 3D Vision. Even people who have no history of seizures or epilepsy may have an undiagnosed condition that can cause these "photosensitive epileptic seizures." Symptoms may include, among others: (1) Light headedness, (2) Altered vision, (3) Eye or face twitching, (4) Involuntary movements, (5) Convulsions, (6) Loss of awareness, (7) Confusion, (8) Disorientation, (9) Nausea. If you experience any of these problems immediately stop using 3D Vision and consult a doctor. Parents should monitor and ask their children about the above symptoms - children and teenagers may be more likely than adults to experience these symptoms.

You may be able to reduce the risk of photosensitive epileptic seizures by taking the following precautions:
  • Do not play when you are drowsy, fatigued or ill.
  • Do not use the 3D Vision for extended periods of time.
  • Use the 3D Vision after reducing the depth setting.
  • Use the 3D Vision with a refresh rate of 100 Hz or higher.
WARNING – Fire and Injury
Do not puncture, pierce, damage, destroy, or make unauthorised modifications to 3D Vision's battery (included in the 3D Vision glasses). Puncturing the battery may result in combustion or a fire, which could lead to severe burns and injury. Also do not expose the battery to extreme temperatures (hot or cold). If there are any signs of damage to the battery, discontinue use of 3D Vision immediately. The 3D Vision glasses are not prescription eyewear, sunglasses, nor a protective goggle. Do not use the glasses for any general eyewear purposes (e.g., driving, reading, protection from sunlight or ultraviolet light, etc.) as such use may result in injury.

WARNING – Contains Glass
The lenses on the 3D Vision glasses contain glass. Exercise caution when using the glasses and properly store them when not in use to prevent damage to the lenses. Do not use the 3D Vision glasses if there is any sign of damage or cracking to the lenses.

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3D Vision includes a battery and electronic components. You may be able to reduce the risk of electric shock by taking the following precautions:
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  • Take care not to spill liquid on or around the 3D Vision glasses or emitter.
WARNING – Laser Device
3D Vision includes a Class 1M laser device. Do not stare directly into the laser produced by 3D Vision's laser emitter. To reduce the risk of exposure to hazardous radiation, do not attempt to disassemble or modify 3D Vision in any manner. Allow only authorised service providers to repair your 3D Vision glasses and emitter.

DLUK added:
Although this advice applies to the use of Nvidia 3d vision hardware if you use 61-200HZ PC displays and have issues in 2d o 3d the same advice would apply.

Although the chance of "photosensitive epileptic seizures or other medial conditions is rare!" If you experince issues with any display and the issue persists DO get medical advice.

Edited by dirtylarryuk, 02 February 2012 - 11:31 PM.

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