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[doctor killer]

Just some leaked stuff about Kepler cards!

Getting tired of people comparing 7970s to the year old GTX580!

http://www.tomshardw...ries,14642.html

[ExtremeGrandpa]

I agree its not an even match when testing the 7970 against the GTX 580, but its the only thing NV has to put up against it right now. And it looks like NV will stay 4 to 6 months behind AMD when releasing new hardware so this will be the norm each go round.

Also most of that information is questionable to say the least. We will see better information soon, getting bad the way some offbeat site can report something as news and everyone else jumps on the bandwagon and reports it as well. I have seen some information out there thats more on point, but the hype of other reports buried it.

[thinktwice]

it will be as allways gtx 680 will be 10-15% better then 7970 and will cost 100-150 € or $. So is the enduser who decides whether is worth spending more and having some percents more performance for gaming!!!

[Unknownuser200]

finnally someone who agrees with me... nvidia is always approx 10-15% faster and more expensive... people think oh my its gonna be 200% faster because its nvidia ... nooo nvidia just wants to slightly beat amd.. why on earth would they make something that much faster... when in a year they can sell you another card

[jfrydom]

ExtremeGrandpa, on 08 February 2012 - 05:03 PM, said:

I agree its not an even match when testing the 7970 against the GTX 580, but its the only thing NV has to put up against it right now. And it looks like NV will stay 4 to 6 months behind AMD when releasing new hardware so this will be the norm each go round.

Also most of that information is questionable to say the least. We will see better information soon, getting bad the way some offbeat site can report something as news and everyone else jumps on the bandwagon and reports it as well. I have seen some information out there thats more on point, but the hype of other reports buried it.

GTX 580 came out before 6970........

[ExtremeGrandpa]

jfrydom, on 08 February 2012 - 09:36 PM, said:

GTX 580 came out before 6970........

And they are the same die size hence why its fair to test them against each other. DUH

[jfrydom]

ExtremeGrandpa, on 08 February 2012 - 10:12 PM, said:

And they are the same die size hence why its fair to test them against each other. DUH

I'm referring to your quote about AMD being early by months...

[ExtremeGrandpa]

I was talking about release of product for the die size. Both the 6@@@ and GTX 5@@ are just refreshes, nothing more and yes fermi was beat to market just as Kepler was, by months

The part of my statement wasnt the @#70 is released each round before the GTX @80, but that AMD has been releasing current generation products prior to NV for awhile.

I dont see how you got out of what i said to bring you to thinking thats what I was saying.

Edited by ExtremeGrandpa, 09 February 2012 - 03:23 AM.

[dirtylarryuk]

ExtremeGrandpa, on 09 February 2012 - 03:12 AM, said:

I was talking about release of product for the die size. Both the 6@@@ and GTX 5@@ are just refreshes, nothing more and yes fermi was beat to market just as Kepler was, by months

The part of my statement wasnt the @#70 is released each round before the GTX @80, but that AMD has been releasing current generation products prior to NV for awhile.

I dont see how you got out of what i said to bring you to thinking thats what I was saying.

The only fair reason to compare 580 vs 7970 is cost. AMD had a huge launch price tag on 7970 (boo!) Nvidia keep the price on the 580 inflated for to long. (i.e. both suck).

market forces have stepped in with both the 7970 and 580 dropping radically in price in late jan' and no wonder look at a 660TI 768 shaders that going to clobber a 580 in DX11 and cost way less and run cold we have seen AMD up there game in compute and DX11 power no reason nvidia won't either.

To be honest till we get the 660 Ti and 7870 28nm is not a big deal for most PC gamers as the advantage of a 7970 is really for 1440p-tri screen not solo 1080p. So 28nm will go mainstream when the $100-250 cards arrive and start giving amazing value solo or in CF Sli.

Games are upping the 'anti' Skyrims dropped a nice HD texture pack this week and plenty of games looked great in DX9-11 in 2011 and there will be more this year.

But if someone said i want the best perfomance and best future proofing you would have to recommend 7970 right now as it is. 580 is still a great card and no reason not to snap one or two up at bargin prices but face the facts in 3-6 months we can have 560TI Sli that will own 580 sli for a fraction of the price 580 Sli cost in 2011.

What would now be great is a value CPU from intel with hex cores with PCIE mobos not the current rip off Hex and X79 combo.

There is also no reason nvidia cards in 28nm won't OC like AMD are! Which yet again makes you think before you snap up a 580 bargin!

We really need Ivy bridge for 28nm.

As we said in 2011 a 7970 with OC and modern CPu would behave like a 590-6990, that has held true the 680 will follow suit faster or slower is no matter as the cost will reflect faster or slower.

Edited by dirtylarryuk, 09 February 2012 - 07:09 AM.

[Unknownuser200]

http://legitreviews.com/news/12439/

[Revorocks]

Unknownuser200, on 10 February 2012 - 01:00 AM, said:

http://legitreviews.com/news/12439/

Seems legit.

[dark ride196]

I do believe these cards will be a tad expensive compared to the older cards, like that 690, it's 1000 dollars compared to the 590's around 700.

[slamscaper]

I do remember reading that Nvidia was "disappointed" in AMD's 7xxx series, as they touted that their initial Kepler offerings will be much faster. I thought that was a bit funny being that Nvidia doesn't even have anything to compete at this point and time.

Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of the green team. I'm currently waiting on Kepler before I start a new build. AMD's GCN is tempting, but I'm inclined to stay with Nvidia as I believe their drivers are still superior. Also, their GPU's are always faster in the games that matter most.

AMD's been having hard time getting functional Crossfire profiles ready for game launches, not to mention the fact that BF3 and Skyrim still have issues on their hardware to this day. If AMD could better prioritze their driver optimizations, they would surely be a force to be reckoned with. Allowing game breaking bugs to stay resident in AAA games is unacceptable.

[Sarge]

i will be supprized it the kepler is 45% faster than the 7970. it seems that nvidia is usualy overcompensating with there numbers.

[Unknownuser200]

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i did say pax right? either way AGAIN fanboys can beleave w.e they want... but there is NO way nvidia would release a card that much faster... it will be about 10-15% and cost that much more just so they can have a crown again.. why would they put out a card that much faster when they can sell u another one in 6 months.. and another in 6 months after that?

[Unknownuser200]

http://vr-zone.com/a...day-/14853.html keep your eyes peeled.. evga will be demonstrating the card this coming weekend.